your daily reminder that the UN is seriously dedicating its time to "Cyberviolence against Women," starring Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn

what a fucking joke

oh no somebody cyberviolenced me

motherfucking CYBERVIOLENCE

welp, it's time to disassociate from the UN.

oh shit cyberVIOLENCE? is that worse than cyberbullying? what's next, cyberrape?

how the fuck do you even engage in cyberviolence?

ezel hejsane wrote:how the fuck do you even engage in cyberviolence?

given how broad that kind of thing is(according to them at least), saying "i don't particularly like you"(if said to a woman) would probably qualify

Barbarian Obama wrote:oh shit cyberVIOLENCE? is that worse than cyberbullying? what's next, cyberrape?

Already exists

samoyed wrote:

ezel hejsane wrote:how the fuck do you even engage in cyberviolence?

given how broad that kind of thing is(according to them at least), saying "i don't particularly like you"(if said to a woman) would probably qualify

this just in, blocking women now considered "hate crime;" DoJ to investigate multiple allegations of hate crime ring known as "#gamergate/#notyourshield/anti-feminism/anti-social justice"

blocking women as in like from facebook LOL

does this mean we committed acts of cyber violence against tomoko

tomoko is a man so no

unless hes a transgender in which we've commited cyberviolence of the first degree

does all of this shit just happen on upper east coast i dont know any kind of sjws in california and we should be having them cuz weird hippie motherfuckers our thing

no i can confirm that we have sjw's in ca

mayb in LA or yreka or wherever you live but not over in the bay

san fran is infested

nah one day while burning man was going on we built a giant wall around the bay area

IT'S HERE
http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf

what a fuck up

if anybody really reads it can they summarize what went down

teddy roosevelt's horse wrote:if anybody really reads it can they summarize what went down

went through about the first four pages

lmao
[4:19:12 PM] (dude): sup
[4:19:12 PM] pvints viųbladan: UN report dropped shocker it's fucking retarded
[4:19:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf
[4:19:34 PM] pvints viųbladan: read it in all its bullshit glory
[4:20:11 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Writing this report has, in some sense, been a race to
keep up with breaking news, as girl after girl and woman
after woman, has come forward to expose physical and
verbal attacks on them:
[4:21:00 PM] pvints viųbladan: so basically what you're telling me here is all women are histrionic, screaming babies who can't handle being criticized on the interbutts
[4:21:14 PM] (dude): PFFFFFFFT.
[4:21:25 PM] pvints viųbladan: this is literally what everybody on the internet regardless of sex, gender, race, education, etc. goes through
[4:21:46 PM] pvints viųbladan: > teenage girls driven to suicide by
online trolling; an airline passenger using her cell phone
to record and report physical and sexual harassment from
a male co-passenger; an actress publicly responding to
targeted online hate speech against her; a former Major
League Baseball pitcher using doxing3
to identify people
responsible for “Twitter troll” posts with obscene, sexually
explicit comments about his teenage daughter.
[4:22:01 PM] (dude): I love how they focus on everything female but only mention dudes as like 'oh and guys too'
[4:22:02 PM] pvints viųbladan: WOAHLY FUCK
[4:22:14 PM] (dude): like a token mention at best
[4:22:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: MAN THIS IS SO FUCKING DEIFFERENT FROM WHAT MEN GO THROUGH except for the part where it isnt
[4:22:31 PM] pvints viųbladan: males receive on average more harassment than women and in greater numbers
[4:22:49 PM] pvints viųbladan: women tend to be more histrionic about it
[4:22:59 PM] pvints viųbladan: men tend to just not give a shit because who the fuck cares
[4:23:23 PM] pvints viųbladan: i couldn't give any less of a fuck about what "gaylord1823" thinks of me as a person
[4:23:35 PM] (dude): Exactly.
[4:23:55 PM] (dude): for example
[4:24:05 PM] (dude): If I can be frank, I wasn't worried when Dynastia called me a fox-fucking deviant on kiwi
[4:24:10 PM] (dude): I was worried he found my real name.
[4:24:40 PM] pvints viųbladan: this fucking report is the dumbest portrayal of the internet since i think Cyberbu\\y
[4:25:43 PM] (dude): What astounds me the most is
[4:25:50 PM] (dude): how the fuck will they actually enforce this
[4:25:53 PM | Edited 4:26:09 PM] (dude): because you can't
[4:26:02 PM] (dude): it's a dumb idea
[4:26:17 PM] (dude): nobody is going to listen to it
[4:26:26 PM] pvints viųbladan: they wont
[4:26:31 PM] (dude): and the only people that do will only contribute to the problem
[4:26:46 PM] pvints viųbladan: if they couldnt prevent the rwandan genocide they cant prevent this supposed harassment of women
[4:27:30 PM] pvints viųbladan: if they seriously think they can appoint saudi arabia to a human rights panel and not expect shit to go awry they cant expect anybody to listen to them
[4:27:42 PM] pvints viųbladan: because nobody will
[4:27:54 PM] pvints viųbladan: the UN is good at throwing reprimands out and that's it
[4:27:57 PM] pvints viųbladan: they're toothless otherwise
[4:28:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: either because they have no power or because they don't care enough to use their power
[4:28:28 PM] (dude): that sort of explains why they listened to anita and zoe
[4:28:33 PM] pvints viųbladan: >High profile incidences attract public attention and tort
law responses: aTwitter troll was jailed5
in September
2014 and a porn site operator sentenced to 18 years in
in prison in February 20156
.
[4:28:52 PM] (dude): "20156"
[4:28:57 PM] pvints viųbladan: that's a footnote
[4:29:02 PM] pvints viųbladan: after a year
[4:29:05 PM] (dude): oh.
[4:29:18 PM] pvints viųbladan: i love this line though
[4:29:19 PM] pvints viųbladan: A current Twitter hashtag4
shows just how rough it is
being a woman on the Internet in North America.
[4:29:27 PM] pvints viųbladan: oh how rough you poor, poor women have it
[4:29:33 PM] (dude): ....
[4:29:40 PM] (dude): explodes into laughter
[4:29:40 PM] pvints viųbladan: heaven forbid your precious fee-fees aren't perpetually not hurt
[4:30:15 PM] (dude): yeah it's not like cuba's ruled by a dictatorship and there's limited resources
[4:30:24 PM | Edited 4:30:28 PM] (dude): no the people comfy in their homes in america have it rough
[4:30:42 PM] pvints viųbladan: also because man those starving african women subject to female genital mutilation and those saudi arabian women who are treated as subhuman and those nigerian girls who were kidnapped by boko haram and are probably all dead now, they have it so easy off man
[4:30:55 PM] pvints viųbladan: they really ought to check their oppression privilege
[4:31:46 PM] pvints viųbladan: because you, a cishet white girl living in suburbia, slurping your three dollar starbucks and browsing twitter on your 1,200 dollar macbook pro, just got dissed on the internet by homofuck69
[4:32:03 PM] pvints viųbladan: and obviously that is paramount to high treason
[4:32:03 PM] (dude): STOP THE PRESSES. I GOT OFFENDED.
[4:32:25 PM] (dude): like wow.
[4:32:51 PM] (dude): so many spoiled babies
[4:33:05 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Responses, however, have yet to fully address the many
degrees and impact of violence, trauma and loss that
women, girls and children are routinely exposed to and
that go unreported.
[4:33:13 PM] pvints viųbladan: haha are you fucking kidding me
[4:33:33 PM] pvints viųbladan: i would take being harassed on the internet to being starved or being treated as subhuman and property
[4:33:41 PM] pvints viųbladan: annnnnnnny fucking day
[4:34:03 PM] (dude): Same.
[4:34:13 PM] (dude): Because one you can just shrug off
[4:34:21 PM] (dude): as long as you're not a crybaby
[4:34:24 PM] pvints viųbladan: i love how they use "traumatic"
[4:34:34 PM] pvints viųbladan: because somehow being insulted on teh interwebs is traumatizing
[4:34:50 PM] (dude): points to tripton
[4:35:01 PM] pvints viųbladan: like no these fuckers arent even referring to actual harassment they're talking about people disagreeing with you on twitter
[4:35:12 PM] pvints viųbladan: > It is a problem of pandemic proportion
when research asserts7
that one in three women will
have experienced a form of violence in her lifetime. Cyber
VAWG could significantly increase this staggering number,
as reports suggest that 73% of women have already been
exposed to or have experienced some form of online
violence8
in what must still be considered a relatively new
and growing technology.
[4:35:17 PM] pvints viųbladan: ONLINE VIOLENCE IS NOT REAL
[4:35:26 PM] pvints viųbladan: YOU CANNOT VIOLENCE SOMEBODY ON THE DIGITAL
[4:35:38 PM] pvints viųbladan: THAT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
[4:35:47 PM] pvints viųbladan: also lol that >73% estimate
[4:35:57 PM] (dude): Where do they get those numbers
[4:36:01 PM] pvints viųbladan: notice the weasel word "have experienced?"
[4:36:01 PM] (dude): out their bum
[4:36:06 PM] pvints viųbladan: that's where they got that
[4:36:16 PM] pvints viųbladan: along with ridiculous definitions
[4:36:31 PM] pvints viųbladan: i guarantee you that inflates the count by a solid 45 or 50% minimum
[4:36:45 PM] (dude): I can try to punch you from this laptop but that would only just break my laptop.
[4:36:53 PM] (dude): like come on this is getting ridiculous
[4:36:58 PM] pvints viųbladan:
>The sheer volume of cyber VAWG has severe social and
economic implications for women and girls.9
[4:37:00 PM] (dude): how is anybody supposed to take this pdf seriously
[4:37:06 PM] pvints viųbladan: nobody should and nobody will
[4:37:16 PM] pvints viųbladan: it's hyperbolic fear mongering on the level of 20/20
[4:37:36 PM] pvints viųbladan: people should take it about as seriously as they take donald trump]
[4:37:47 PM] pvints viųbladan: and his bullshit "build a wall keep the immies out"
[4:37:58 PM] (dude): I actually saw a video on youtube called "donald trump doesn't owe anything"
[4:38:01 PM] (dude): I didn't actually click on it
[4:38:15 PM] (dude): but it reeked of bullshit
[4:38:18 PM] pvints viųbladan: > Threats of
rape, death, and stalking put a premium on the emotional
bandwidth and put a stress on financial resources (in
terms of legal fees, online protection services, and
missed wages, among others).
[4:38:38 PM] pvints viųbladan: oh no, someone who live sixteen hours away from me in cape town, south africa, just told me they're gonna kill me!!!
[4:38:47 PM] pvints viųbladan: dumb as fuck
[4:39:24 PM] pvints viųbladan: unless you are literally getting this shit in the mail from nearby you might as well just ignore those threats or forward them to the FBI if you're so fucking concerned
[4:39:46 PM] (dude): Yeah I would only get concerned if they were actually around my area.
[4:40:00 PM] pvints viųbladan: nobody is going to go out of their way to stalk someone for disagreeing with them unless they are seriously mentally unhinged at which point they are probably already on a watchlist
[4:40:06 PM] (dude): It would take real dumbass determination for a guy to track down my address from halfway around the country
[4:40:20 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Cyber VAGW can
also have adverse impact on the exercise of and advocacy
for free speech and other human rights.
[4:40:22 PM] pvints viųbladan: yeah
[4:40:25 PM] pvints viųbladan: IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, retards
[4:40:40 PM] pvints viųbladan: the very concept you are basing your PDF off of does not exist
[4:40:57 PM] pvints viųbladan: it is an invention of the far, far left
[4:41:20 PM] pvints viųbladan: it is essentially made to restrict free speech and human rights
[4:41:31 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Perpetrators of VAWG are rarely held accountable in part
due to the relatively low capacity to prosecute offenders.
[4:41:35 PM] pvints viųbladan: golly gee i wonder why that is
[4:41:48 PM] pvints viųbladan: probably because your definition of 'Cyber VAWG' is utter bullshit
[4:42:03 PM] (dude): It's pretty bad.
[4:42:11 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Societal barriers, the limitations of legal recourse and
other factors hamper access to justice for many women,
particularly for girls and women living in poverty. This
situation exacerbates already low reporting levels and
spiraling a vicious cycle.
[4:42:19 PM] pvints viųbladan: implying this is not the case for men as well
[4:42:29 PM] pvints viųbladan: implying that this is not universally true for most issues
[4:42:54 PM] (dude): This is reading like a bullshit high school report someone was forced to make
[4:42:57 PM] pvints viųbladan: because it is
[4:43:04 PM] pvints viųbladan: or it might as well be
[4:43:26 PM] pvints viųbladan: >The respect for and security of girls and women must
at all times be front and center of those in charge of
producing and providing the content, technical backbone
and enabling environment of our digital society.
[4:43:38 PM] pvints viųbladan: how about respect for and security of all people??
[4:44:08 PM] (dude): "security of girls and women" well we know whose extremely limited priorities are at
[4:44:10 PM] pvints viųbladan: and while we're at it, how about the folks in charge of this report just stop and actually analyze what they're suggesting here, which is in short that people completely change the internet from the ground up
[4:44:49 PM] pvints viųbladan: there is no one singular human being alive right now that is "in charge of
producing and providing the content, technical backbone
and enabling environment"
[4:44:53 PM] pvints viųbladan: of the internet
[4:45:16 PM] pvints viųbladan: this is the product of millions upon millions of people in millions upon millions of places affecting billions upon billions of people
[4:45:24 PM] (dude): Well, no wonder why this is destined to fail.
[4:45:31 PM] pvints viųbladan: all things of this nature are
[4:45:41 PM] pvints viųbladan: it's pretty hard to change what you don't understand
[4:45:51 PM] pvints viųbladan: especially when that thing is as encompassing and broad as the internet
[4:45:57 PM] (dude): it's like we're looking at chicken scratch
[4:46:08 PM] pvints viųbladan: > As this paper goes to print, Ellen
Pao, former CEO of the online forum Reddit expressed
grave concerns about the tensions between balancing
freedom of expression with privacy and protection of
Internet users.12
[4:46:44 PM] pvints viųbladan: the 8chan system seems to work pretty well bros
[4:47:10 PM] (dude): So if we were to humor this idea... it would probably be like some dick going around "STOP HARASSING"
[4:47:13 PM] pvints viųbladan: yes
[4:47:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: "Rigorous oversight and enforcement of
rules banning cyber VAWG on the Internet is going to be a
conditio sine qua non if it is to become a safe, respectful
and empowering space for women and girls, and by
extension, for boys and men. G"
[4:47:16 PM] (dude): like it would actually do anything
[4:47:21 PM] pvints viųbladan: this is literally what they are suggesting
[4:47:35 PM] pvints viųbladan: they are suggesting banning all "cyber VAWG"
[4:47:55 PM] pvints viųbladan: which literally means abridging free speech to protect women from something that does not exist
[4:48:03 PM] pvints viųbladan: it's the ultimate boogeyman
[4:48:07 PM] (dude): and in turn cause more chaos.
[4:48:12 PM] (dude): like
[4:48:13 PM] pvints viųbladan: oh yeah this wont do jack shit
[4:48:32 PM] pvints viųbladan: the current laws against cyberbullying don't do shit unless you live in an orwellian police state such as england
[4:49:11 PM] pvints viųbladan: you would have to go out of your way to get someone prosecuted for that shit in a location which doesn't actively monitor its citizens 24/7
[4:49:33 PM] pvints viųbladan: and even in england only the worst offenders really get caught
[4:49:42 PM] (dude): "POLICE ARREST THIS MAN"
[4:49:44 PM] (dude): "why"
[4:49:48 PM] (dude): "BECAUSE HE SHITPOSTED"
[4:49:52 PM] (dude): "... leaves "
[4:50:08 PM] pvints viųbladan: yeah that's the thing about this
[4:50:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: the whole idea is flawed from the bottom up
[4:50:51 PM] pvints viųbladan: and even if it wasnt it would not work
[4:51:01 PM] pvints viųbladan: >The first imperative in eliminating
cyber VAWG is prevention.
[4:51:04 PM] pvints viųbladan: will never happen
[4:51:17 PM] pvints viųbladan: you might as well just take your pitchforks down now and go home
[4:51:36 PM] (dude): yeah how is that going to work asshole it's not like hundreds upon thousands of people are doing things without supervision right as we speak
[4:51:41 PM] (dude): like wow
[4:51:43 PM] pvints viųbladan: you would have to basically do what north korea does to even make a dent in this
[4:51:53 PM] (dude): At least this pdf was worth a chuckle
[4:52:01 PM] pvints viųbladan: and i guarantee you that eventually everybody would just say fuck it
[4:52:18 PM] pvints viųbladan: because you'd be throwing so many people in jail by that point that society would pretty much cease to function
[4:52:33 PM] pvints viųbladan: or at least to a point of unsustainability
[4:52:47 PM] pvints viųbladan: you can only throw so many people in a jail before it gets a little ridiculous
[4:53:10 PM] pvints viųbladan: and because of the way things work and how this would all shuffle out
[4:53:19 PM] pvints viųbladan: you would devastate the up and coming generations
[4:53:33 PM] pvints viųbladan: which would cause a cascading clusterfuck that would screw half the world over
[4:53:40 PM] pvints viųbladan: it would be a fucking catastrophe
[4:53:55 PM] (dude): And all because some asshole was offended.
[4:54:02 PM] (dude): On the internet.
[4:54:13 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Changing social attitudes and
norms is the first step to shifting the
way online abuse is understood as a serious challenge.
[4:54:17 PM] pvints viųbladan: yeah haha this isnt happening either
[4:54:28 PM] pvints viųbladan: most people are dicks
[4:54:34 PM] pvints viųbladan: that's the fact of life
[4:54:35 PM] (dude): ... You can't even convince people your overall idea is worth investing
[4:54:44 PM] (dude): how the fuck are you going to tackle culture
[4:54:48 PM] pvints viųbladan: you cant
[4:54:52 PM] pvints viųbladan: you wont
[4:54:52 PM] (dude): exactly
[4:55:00 PM] pvints viųbladan: society will not change because you want it to
[4:55:07 PM] pvints viųbladan: it will change as it needs to
[4:55:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: and society cannot change biology anyways
[4:55:21 PM] pvints viųbladan: or genetics
[4:55:34 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Violence is not new, but cyber violence is, and the public
needs to recognize this and address it as a priority issue.
[4:55:40 PM] pvints viųbladan: cyber violence is not real
[4:55:56 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Sensitization to cyber VAWG must include educating the
next generation of ICT users, both boys and girls, through
their parents, teachers and wider communities, as well as
police authorities and the justice systems.
[4:56:10 PM] pvints viųbladan: the children will laugh at you and the adults will too
[4:56:51 PM] (dude): I bet you my 8 year old brother will look at this and go
[4:56:56 PM] (dude): "What the heck are they talking about"
[4:57:19 PM] pvints viųbladan: the justice systems will rebuke you
[4:57:31 PM] pvints viųbladan: because this would violate all sorts of free speech amendments all over the place
[4:57:51 PM] pvints viųbladan: >The second imperative is to put in place and implement
safeguards to secure safe online spaces.
[4:57:57 PM] pvints viųbladan: already exists
[4:58:01 PM] pvints viųbladan: it's called a block button
[4:58:06 PM] pvints viųbladan: try it some time
[4:58:26 PM] pvints viųbladan: although i bet if you showed people this they would be in awe
[4:58:38 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Third in this multi-level approach to addressing cyber
VAWG are sanctions, which address laws as well as the
will and ability of the courts and legal systems to enforce
compliance and punitive consequences for perpetrators.
[4:58:42 PM] pvints viųbladan: also not happening
[4:58:48 PM] pvints viųbladan: courts will laugh you the fuck lout
[4:59:07 PM] pvints viųbladan: theyd only get involved if the threat was credible anyways, which is already how this works
[4:59:12 PM] (dude): The only reason the UN listened was because they're already barfy.
[4:59:38 PM] pvints viųbladan: oh i missed a ban ki moon quote
[4:59:39 PM] pvints viųbladan: >“There is one universal truth, applicable to all countries,
cultures and communities: violence against women is never
acceptable, never excusable, never tolerable.”
[4:59:51 PM] (dude): .... uh...
[5:00:14 PM] (dude): replace women with "human beings"
[5:00:17 PM] (dude): and you have everybody
[5:00:18 PM] pvints viųbladan: ban ki moon is a cool guy but i wont lie his opinion here is fucking retarded
[5:00:27 PM] (dude): it's not just women that need defending
[5:00:38 PM] (dude): especially in the face of an actual threat
[5:00:43 PM] (dude): and not just shitposting
[5:00:46 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Free speech is a fundamental
right, and its preservation requires
vigilance by everyone. F
[5:01:26 PM | Edited 5:01:36 PM] pvints viųbladan: ironically this entire PDF seeks to disestablish the fundamental right of free speech by replacing it with a neutered, toothless version of it that is selectively applied and disproportionately affects one gender and one gender alone
[5:01:43 PM] (dude): That isn't so free.
[5:02:04 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Some suggest that the establishment of a
Cyber Civil Rights Initiative (CCRI) through international
collaboration is necessary to ensure a safe Internet.
[5:02:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: hahahah oh my god people actually believe this shit would work
[5:02:37 PM] pvints viųbladan: you can't even get people to agree on the existence of genocides
[5:02:53 PM] pvints viųbladan: particularly the holocaust despite there being oceans of evidence
[5:03:16 PM] pvints viųbladan: how the fuck do you think you'll get people to agree on how to viably police the internet in a way that will benefit everyone?
[5:03:30 PM] (dude): Answer: lol nope
[5:03:50 PM] pvints viųbladan: >Readers might broadly agree that society’s failure
to address gender-based violence and crimes is
symptomatic of a wider social failure to respect and
honor each other regardless of sex, age, creed or race.
[5:03:56 PM] pvints viųbladan: not really
[5:04:11 PM] (dude): We're readers and we don't agree. That makes this argument fall apart immediately.
[5:04:58 PM] pvints viųbladan: also it's funny because this PDF is a part of this supposed "wider social failure"
[5:05:17 PM] pvints viųbladan: by insinuating that women are disproportionately affected by a nonexistent issue and seeking to coddle them away from it as suchj
[5:05:25 PM] pvints viųbladan: it addresses no real issues
[5:05:43 PM] pvints viųbladan: and it does not better society; rather, it aims to fuck it hard
[5:06:15 PM] pvints viųbladan: this will only hurt women, it will not help them
[5:06:18 PM] (dude): it's really just "blah blah bad stuff blah blah give us money to fight an nonexistent issue"
[5:06:22 PM] pvints viųbladan: because most of them do not give a shit
[5:06:25 PM] pvints viųbladan: i guarantee you

the fact that i have a chatlog that long about the first FOUR PAGES of the report should tell you how legitimate it is

why'd you omit a dudes name, is it like skype or something

yes