manifesto for a new socialist organization that i've been working on for some guys at /leftypol/

oops

i was surprised to see this thread at 22 replies and was un-surprised to see it consisting of mac b and rtcity sucking each others dicks and oaky popping in

this is really gay

i agree

OP trying so hard to argue that 'socialist states are totally fine u guys believe me!!!' when literally no socialist state ever self proclaimed or actual has been a place actually worth living in lol (i wonder why?)

FUDGIEFIGHTERIA wrote:OP trying so hard to argue that 'socialist states are totally fine u guys believe me!!!' when literally no socialist state ever self proclaimed or actual has been a place actually worth living in lol (i wonder why?)

the historically marginalized disabled bisexual negro posts from his decrepit literally shitty house

there's a difference between not worth moving to and not worth living in

allende's chile and fsr germany were alright catalonia perhaps as well

Flammarcos wrote:

FUDGIEFIGHTERIA wrote:OP trying so hard to argue that 'socialist states are totally fine u guys believe me!!!' when literally no socialist state ever self proclaimed or actual has been a place actually worth living in lol (i wonder why?)

the historically marginalized disabled bisexual negro posts from his decrepit literally shitty house

there's a difference between not worth moving to and not worth living in

wew lad my living standards in a literal shithole were still better than 98% of the population of planet earth and literally every socialist country ever because i was actually fed and had money to do whatever the fuck i want what does that tell you about the success of capitalism and how shitty socialism is

FD just mad that even the literal worst parts of a capitalist country are infinitely superior to any socialist nation

Flammarcos wrote:allende's chile and fsr germany were alright catalonia perhaps as well

these are still true

FUDGIEFIGHTERIA wrote:

Flammarcos wrote:

FUDGIEFIGHTERIA wrote:OP trying so hard to argue that 'socialist states are totally fine u guys believe me!!!' when literally no socialist state ever self proclaimed or actual has been a place actually worth living in lol (i wonder why?)

the historically marginalized disabled bisexual negro posts from his decrepit literally shitty house

there's a difference between not worth moving to and not worth living in

wew lad my living standards in a literal shithole were still better than 98% of the population of planet earth and literally every socialist country ever because i was actually fed and had money to do whatever the fuck i want what does that tell you about the success of capitalism and how shitty socialism is

it tells me that you are a pampered brat deaf to the real world who thinks every country is a capitalist success like america except for the two or three the other 98% of the population live in when the only places that have had a positive experience with capitalism are north america, western europe and east asia. IF that.

FUDGIEFIGHTERIA wrote:FD just mad that even the literal worst parts of a capitalist country are infinitely superior to any socialist nation

you're comparing the best to the best, not the average to the average

lmao "pampered brat" i live below the fucking poverty line bud i don't know how that qualifies as pampered, but in any case i still have better living standards than i would in about any other country and especially the socialist ones because shockingly, capitalism kind of works

it's about parenting styles

i also live below the poverty line

that's just the thing capitalism is "good enough" ie we can do fucking better and you'll agree when you have to work somewhere that doesn't let you shit on the carpets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

you'd probably have better living standards in any of the top 19 than america

Flammarcos wrote:it's about parenting styles

i also live below the poverty line

that's just the thing capitalism is "good enough" ie we can do fucking better and you'll agree when you have to work somewhere that doesn't let you shit on the carpets

no it isn't lol there is literally no circumstance in which someone who lives below the poverty line is a "pampered brat" no kid who grows up in a poverty-stricken household is going to grow up spoiled bud

also lol i'd love to see this "better" system you have in mind because socialism has never worked well in any country in history

Flammarcos wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

you'd probably have better living standards in any of the top 19 than america

'probably'
all that needs to be said

your parents obviously never discipline you and let you do whatever you want. brat.


it's very simple actually it's called communalist market socialism and it's working in rojava and chiapas

you would most definitely have better living standards in any of the top 10 besides america

for one health care

Flammarcos wrote:your parents obviously never discipline you and let you do whatever you want. brat.

s-s-s-s-s-salty and also very untrue

i used to get disciplined all the time in ways that today would probably have gotten CPS called FD, and nowdays i don't because i don't do stupid shit like flip out and smash my sister's laptop against a bedpost over going to the zoo lol

it's very simple actually it's called communalist market socialism and it's working in rojava and chiapas

it clearly isn't because rojava is a shithole and the few outposts of the zapatistas in chiapas are also shitholes

FD you should check your blood sugar you're starting to make butthurt assertions again

Flammarcos wrote:you would most definitely have better living standards in any of the top 10 besides america

prove it

Man I sure would love to move to Norway where my fellow countryman's income would drop from $50k a year to $33k (net-adjusted) but at least I can be smug in the presence of people who hate America

FUDGIEFIGHTERIA wrote:

Flammarcos wrote:your parents obviously never discipline you and let you do whatever you want. brat.

s-s-s-s-s-salty and also very untrue

i used to get disciplined all the time in ways that today would probably have gotten CPS called FD, and nowdays i don't because i don't do stupid shit like flip out and smash my sister's laptop against a bedpost over going to the zoo lol

it's very simple actually it's called communalist market socialism and it's working in rojava and chiapas

it clearly isn't because rojava is a shithole and the few outposts of the zapatistas in chiapas are also shitholes

it wasn't "smashed" i just knocked the hard drive loose and you're actually proving my point there your parents have no idea what they're doing and discipline unevenly and unfairly and because you spend all your time on the internet they have no idea what you're doing so your smug attitude and dickishness doesn't come through in real life because they don't know you in real life because you spend all day on the computer which is another thing they don't do anything about
the surrounding areas are even bigger shitholes do you know how any of this works at all you don't just instate a new system and create a utopia you fucking know you're asking for too much you dickfuck

oaky wrote:Man I sure would love to move to Norway where my fellow countryman's income would drop from $50k a year to $33k (net-adjusted) but at least I can be smug in the presence of people who hate America

and you wouldn't have to worry about paying for baby supplies and health care for those $17,000 and that's just off the top of my head =3

also isn't america's median income $29k