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Post by Level 23 Glonkmaster November 29th 2015, 1:05 am

viubladan wrote:
we absolutely do not need social justice in this day and age, and its purpose is better served by egalitarianism

Egalitarianism (from French égal, meaning "equal")—or, rarely, equalitarianism or equalism—is a trend of thought that favors equality for all people. Egalitarian doctrines maintain that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or social status, according to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

so what you're saying is that communism is superior to social justice?
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 1:14 am

so what you're saying is that communism is superior to social justice?
yes, because egalitarianism (which is not communist at all unless you're talking about shit like social and economic egalitarianism) isn't an ideology which from the bottom to the top consists of people who:
support literal child abusers, rapist, abusers, con artists, falsely accuse others of rape, literally bully others into suicide, systematically harass and intimidate their opponents into silence, shame male victims of things such as rape, laugh at male suicide victims, raid forums of virgins in attempts to get them to kill themselves, laugh at the male suicide rate and consider it a non-issue, literally make shit up about people and get the press to report on it, will more than happily exploit serious issues for their own benefits, and who will stop at literally nothing to get their way, to say nothing of the false narratives they weave, mental illnesses they devalue, serious issues they reduce to political buzzwords, identities and races they reduce to labels, people who they dehumanize...
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 1:15 am

when egalitarianism on the whole is unironically advocating for the abolition of free speech and most fundamental human rights in the western world because it hurts some peoples' feelings, please feel free to contact me and then maybe we'll talk about whether or not egalitarianism is worse than social justice
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Post by Level 23 Glonkmaster November 29th 2015, 1:20 am

it seems like more or less the same thing. the difference is that social justice, while good, can be kind of a mess because of the internet, while nobody knows what fucking egalitarianism is
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 1:25 am

there are plenty of people who know what egalitarianism is, it is literally one of the fundamental concepts within the US Constitution
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 8:10 am

not again
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 8:10 am

zoinks
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 11:00 am

titanius anglesmith wrote:sometimes i feel like rt blows his own personal opinions up into big problems while dismissing stuff he doesnt like as non-issues
if you actually expect me to believe that racism and sexism are any more than minor, passing inconveniences in this day and age that hold little bearing over out society you're a bit fucking silly because by law neither is legal and this has been true since the 1960s
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 11:03 am

about the most sexist thing left in our society is the obvious double standard that men should be bad enough dudes to handle their issues even if they're severe, and that's dying off now
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Post by Level 23 Glonkmaster November 29th 2015, 11:33 am

viubladan wrote:about the most sexist thing left in our society is the obvious double standard that men should be bad enough dudes to handle their issues even if they're severe, and that's dying off now

i wouldn't make these judgements considering you are an overly sheltered (14/15?) year old boy from one of the top 5 most progressive states and you are forced to get all of your information from the internet (kind of like a lot of social justice warriors, the only difference being you don't restrict yourself to tumblr). not that you can't have an opinion, you should just be a little more self aware and not speak on things you have no room to speak on.
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 11:40 am

make pizza not war
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Post by Level 23 Glonkmaster November 29th 2015, 11:44 am

tomoko-chan wrote:make pizza not war

says tomoko, supporter of israel who've spent 12 trillion on a dumbass religion war
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 11:46 am

flademcgay wrote:
tomoko-chan wrote:make pizza not war

says tomoko, supporter of israel who've spent 12 trillion on a dumbass religion war

thats not true
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 11:46 am

im neutral on that matter
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 11:54 am

flademcgay wrote:i wouldn't make these judgements considering you are an overly sheltered (14/15?) year old boy from one of the top 5 most progressive states and you are forced to get all of your information from the internet (kind of like a lot of social justice warriors, the only difference being you don't restrict yourself to tumblr). not that you can't have an opinion, you should just be a little more self aware and not speak on things you have no room to speak on.
except that's true

there are almost parts of our society where sexism ACTUALLY exists in any way -- we obviously still have issues with a few things like how crazily skewed low paying, high risk jobs are in favor of men, but outside of people not taking men's issues seriously sexism in the US is a non-issue which we can do no more about short of taking an authoritarian route
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 11:57 am

RT, please relax

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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 11:58 am

tomoko-chan wrote:RT, please relax

i think you're the one that needs to relax if me politely disagreeing with flade is making you this uncomfortable
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 12:02 pm

viubladan wrote:
tomoko-chan wrote:RT, please relax

i think you're the one that needs to relax if me politely disagreeing with flade is making you this uncomfortable

its not

but this mirrors other conversations where you spontaneously combust into a fight

im sorry
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 12:05 pm

tomoko-chan wrote:its not

but this mirrors other conversations where you spontaneously combust into a fight

im sorry
maybe if you'd just quit being a kike and making asinine comments like the one you just did which do not contribute to the discussion, we wouldn't have things like this happen
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Post by alyaza November 29th 2015, 12:05 pm

i'd hate to see you defuse a conflict or be in charge of a nation's foreign policy because you'd get the place nuked
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 12:09 pm

ill stop talking before you erupt in an argument
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Post by sadako November 29th 2015, 12:10 pm

our governor is no good
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